UPDATE: ICC Appeals Board Denies NAHB Claim Regarding IRC Residential Sprinkler Requirement
See the article “ICC Appeals Board Denies NAHB Claim“
The opposition to residential fire sprinkler requirements continues as the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) filed a request to appeal on October 30, 2008 with the International Code Council (ICC). The appeal targets the recent passing of RB64-07/08 to the International Residential Code (IRC) which requires residential fire sprinklers to be installed in one and two family homes and town homes effective January 1, 2011.
RB64-07/08, with public comment 2, passed overwhelming on September 21, 2008 with 73% percent approval from close to two thousand voting members at the final action hearings in Minneapolis. The NAHB appeal contends that the ICC failed to provide a balance of interest in voting.
Specifically, the appeal claims that:
– the ICC did not prevent a single interest group, specifically the fire service, from unfairly dominating the voting at the final action hearings.
– the ICC’s governmental consensus process was manipulated and subverted to advance the interests of a single stakeholder.
– the ICC must take immediate and strong action to eliminate the growing influence of third-part funding to secure votes at the ICC final action hearings.
To view a copy of the appeal click on the following NAHB Appeal to ICC Regarding RB64 and RB66
The appeal is currently planned to be conducted in Chicago with conference call capabilities. Parties involved will be notified of the specific details of the appeals hearing at least twenty days prior.
Further, the appeals board is taking written views from interested parties on the request for appeal. You are encouraged to provide your views on this matter by filing a written comment with Michael Pfeiffer, ICC Deputy Senior Vice President of Technical Affairs.
To view the ICC Appeal Policy click on the following ICC Appeal Policy
Many supporters of residential fire sprinkler requirements find it ironic that such claims are coming from the NAHB organization with a long history of representing their members special interests and using their collective strength to influence the code development process.
The ICC develops its codes using the governmental consensus process. Voting members for the building codes are typical building officials and fire officials from government jurisdictions across the country. Non-governmental representatives are allowed to be members of the ICC, but may not vote on code changes. Further, each voting governmental member must physically be present at the final action hearings to cast their vote. In the case of RB64-07/08, the authorized ICC voting members from the fire service exercised their right to vote by traveling to the hearings and officially showing their support for residential fire sprinkler requirements.
Financial assistance for travel expenses of voting members was offered by both proponents and opponents of RB64-07/08. Such travel assistance does not change the view of the voting members, rather it simply helps to remove the travel barrier that hinders some voting governmental members from casting their vote.
The NAHB claims that the vote was manipulated by the fire service, but supporters argue that the fire service has simply exercised their right to vote and participate in the governmental consensus process. The NAHB obviously is not pleased with the outcome of the vote, but their claims that the fire service has “unfairly” dominated the voting process may be going too far in pushing their agenda. Since when is winning a majority of the vote considered “unfairly” dominating? Isn’t that the objective of both sides of any issue being voted on?
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Residential Fire Sprinklers .com November 17, 2008 at 11:54 pm
The Fire Prevention Association of North Texas (FPANT) has sent a written response to the ICC providing their views on the NAHB request to appeal.
See FPANT Letter to ICC Regarding NAHB Appeal
Jake
Jake November 20, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Fire sprinklers save lives!!!!!!! Go 2 bed on this one NAHB!
homesafe
homesafe November 21, 2008 at 7:35 am
It is ironic that the NAHB is claiming that any group representing more than 30% of the voting base is unfairly dominating the process when they themselves hold 4 of the 11 seats on the committee. They are exceeding the 30% rule and we should amend the bylaws and take those seats away from the NAHB (who are not even eligible to vote on code changes) and give them to parties that represent the broader base of the affected populace.
I think an appeal should be made to remove their unfair representation from the process.
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Residential Fire Sprinklers .com November 26, 2008 at 12:49 pm
UPDATE: The appeal hearing for RB64-07/08 and RB66-07/08 has been scheduled for December 11, 2008 at 8:00am Central. It will be held in the Wyndham O’Hare in Rosemont, IL. The appeal will be conducted in-person only. There will be no conference call capabilities.
To view the notice of appeal hearing click on the following ICC Appeal Hearing Notice for RB64 and RB66
ICC Appeals Board Denies NAHB Claim Regarding IRC Residential Sprinkler Requirement
ICC Appeals Board Denies NAHB Claim Regarding IRC Residential Sprinkler Requirement December 11, 2008 at 3:02 pm
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Jerry
Jerry December 15, 2008 at 11:18 pm
NAHB Wake up!!! Realize that your fighting a losing battle…..Stop the whining, please!
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Alan
Alan May 10, 2011 at 6:48 pm
I have worked with a fire investigator and I currently work as a fire safety consultant. I agree that sprinkler systems save lives. I also know that proper working early fire detection equipment and properly maintained fire extinguishers save lives. With code requiring the minimum of ionization smoke detectors in homes, why haven’t they required fire extinguishers to be installed in the most likely places where fires start and/or where most fire deaths occur (ie. master bedroom, kitchen, basement-near furnace/utility rooms, and in garage) before jumping to requiring that sprinkler systems be installed?
NFPA recommends three types of early fire detection be in homes, which include ionization detectors, photo-electric detectors, and heat detectors. Why not make that the code before requiring sprinkler systems?
Why not start with requiring fully monitored smoke/heat alarm systems, with all alarms being monitored, not just one per level? Monitored alarms allow the residents to know which direction to run, or where to go to put the fire out before it gets out of hand and allows firefighters to know exactly which rooms are involved instead of all alarms going off at once and no one knows where the fire is until they are in it?
Why not require heat detectors in the attic, kitchen, furnace/utility, garage, laundry, family room/TV room, and other such rooms, where smoke detectors can’t be placed due to environmental factors? Sprinkler systems are absolutely ineffective on attic fires, that can continue to develop undetected for hours. The homeowners are unaware of the fire until the roof crashes in on them. The sprikler will do nothing but keep their bodies from burning.
Who pays for the sprikler systems that cost around $30,000 to install? Everyone pays because the insurance companies will pass the cost onto all of their clients. They will pass the cost to everyone…everyone…not just the homeowner with the system. Plus, when the sprinkler system is activated, additional costs are incurred by…everyone.
What are the other more effective and more economical alternatives to help protect lives, firefighters, insurance companies, and all insured clients?
Rob
Rob September 21, 2011 at 1:28 pm
I read Allen’s comments and realized he said all he really wanted to say in the next to the last paragraph. That’s where I’ll focus my comments.
First of all, as an investigator you should really check you facts before you publish them. If you know someone who is charging 30K to install a residential sprinkler in a single family dwelling, he’s a crook and should be in jail. We all know that only the systems that all the heads activate at once if you hold a match up to one head cost that kind of money. Unfortunately the public believes that kind of malarkey especially when it comes from one with fire safety consultant credintials, someone who should know better.
Let’s explore how not installing sprinklers will affect the economy:
The home builders opposed to the legislation will surly prosper and create all kinds of new jobs rebuilding homes that burn down or remodel those that are severely damaged. I wonder if those kinds of repairs come close to 30K.
Let’s not forget the insurance adjusters that will have secure jobs with all the huge insurance claims. What kind of claims?
How about those from the hospitals and burn centers treating patients with life altering or life ending injuries to not only the occupants but to the firefighters as well who will be entering the structure just about the time flashover normally occurs.
Oh yea, dont forget the funeral homes increasing thier revenue too (there’s another 30K).
Look at all the employment opportunities for new-young eager firefighters filling the slots vacated by our fallen brothers and sisters.
We can also envision all the neighborhood revitalization that will continue to take place even if the occupants and firefighters aren’t injured, then we only we’re only talking menial things like family heirlooms, photographs, worthless hand-me-downs from generation to generation. Blah, blah, blah…
You know the US Fire Administration published that an averaging a buck-fifty per square foot to install a residential sprinkler system in new construction. a dollar and 61 cents per square foot? That sound like a pretty good deal to me…